Our nation is in deep trouble and everyone knows it. It is clear that we are on the verge of financial collapse, there is so much tension building between so many different groups on political, spiritual, and racial issues that civil war is a greater and greater threat, our military is falling far too low on recruitment and the attitude of fighting aged citizens is extremely anti-military which is very bad as war seems imminent, and in this election year our country is in complete chaos on the political plane. Our enemies are taking all this in and reveling in our impending doom.
There is a scripture that applies.
For wheresoever the carcass is, there will the vultures be gathered together. Matthew 24:28
Does bring an image to your mind? Have you ever seen a movie or a cartoon that portrayed some person or animal stranded in the desert, or wounded in the wild somewhere and beginning to show signs of losing consciousness while buzzards are seen circling overhead?
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Also they will follow a hunting animal and wait until the bigger predator is done eating, then go finish off the leftovers.
In more peopled areas, they hang around roads looking and smelling for roadkill. They’re smart enough to remember where the common critter-smashing areas are.
vultures do is that they glide at some distance from each other, but still close enough that they can see the closest one. So when one of them located a carcass and thus lands, the ones closest to it instantly follow, and on and on it goes. This isn’t actually coordinated behaviour, it’s just the most efficient method for each one of them.
About 1 month later we go out to finish. The paint had turned bad. It smelled like death. But we decided use it anyway. Well halfway through our project we had vultures circling us and sitting in the trees. Very surreal.
SOURCE: How do scavenger birds locate the carcasses they want to eat while flying?
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As I have written in earlier post, this coming war IS A WORLDWIDE WAR. There will be NO nation that will be exempt or “neutral”. The USA which in prior wars has been isolated and avoided troops on the ground at home, will not have that luxury in this conflict. There are already foreign troops on our homeland and more waiting outside our borders. Modern Technology has removed the barriers of distance and oceans.
Our enemies, well aware of our tenuous conditions of our nation are flexing their muscles and giving us very clear messages visually and verbally that they are ready to take advantage when the opportunity presents itself.Recently, both Russia and China have made their presence known.
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The scripture quoted at the beginning of this post is actually found in two places in the Bible. Both of the references are really related to the return of Jesus Christ/Yeshua the Messiah. In other words they are meant to be clues to the timing of the end.
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MATTHEW 24:
22 “If those days had not been cut short, no one would survive, but for the sake of the elect those days will be shortened. 23 At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time.
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28 Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.
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LUKE 17
30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” [36] [e]
37 “Where, Lord?” they asked.
He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”
So, though the scripture applies to understanding that vultures are watching and waiting for their opportunity to devour, there is also a message of the timing of the end and the return of CHRIST.
We are seeing many signs that we are living in the time of the end. Let’s take a look at possible meanings for this particular scripture.
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A Body, Vultures and the Son of Man (Luke 17:37)
“Wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together” (Luke 17:37; KJV), is certainly one of the most enigmatic of Jesus’ sayings.
A JP reader writes:
A JP reader writes:Can you help with a puzzle? In Luke 17 and Matthew 24 Jesus makes the oddest statement: “Where the body is there also will the vultures be gathered”; “Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather” (Luke 17:37; Matt. 24:28; NASB). This seems so out of sync with the subject matter. Could Jesus have used a Hebrew idiom of the day that we misunderstand (looking through English via Greek eyes, as it were)? Please shed some light on this phrase.
Beth Dodd, Gainesville, Texas, U.S.A.
David Bivin responds:
Luke 17:37b, ὅπου τὸ σῶμα ἐκεῖ καὶ οἱ ἀετοὶ ἐπισυναχθήσονται (“wheresoever the body is, thither will the eagles be gathered together”; KJV),[1] is certainly one of the most enigmatic of Jesus’ sayings. Commentators have noted that Jesus employed a proverbial saying to reply to his disciples’ question, “Where, Lord?” (Luke 17:37a); however, they differ on what the proverb means in this context. Some understand it to mean that the Son of Man will inevitably appear just as eagles inevitably show up where there is carrion. Others suggest that it refers to the swiftness with which the Son of Man will come in judgment. Still others take it to mean that the Son of Man will come when the world has become like a lifeless corpse, rotten with evil and ripe for judgment. None of these interpretations seems satisfactory in light of the disciples terse question—”Where?”
From my experience, the most effective way to understand a saying of Jesus preserved in the Synoptic Gospels (i.e., Matthew, Mark and Luke) is to translate it into Hebrew and then ask what the resultant Hebrew means. When the saying about a dead body and eagles is put into Hebrew, one notices a possible allusion to a passage from the book of Job that describes the habits of vultures:
It [the vulture] dwells among the rocks and there it lodges; its station is a crevice in the rock; from there it searches for food, keenly scanning the distance, that its brood may be gorged with blood; and where the slain are, there the vulture is. (Job 39:28-30, New English Bible)
This passage concludes with the proverb to which Jesus seems to be alluding: וּבַאֲשֶׁר חֲלָלִים שָׁם הוּא (u⋅va⋅’a⋅SHER ḥa⋅lā⋅LIM shām hū’, “and wherever there are slain, there it [the vulture] is”), that is, whenever dead bodies lie exposed in the open field, immediately vultures appear and huddle around them.
Many English versions of the Bible, for example, the King James Version, present the reader with four literalisms in their translations of the eight Greek words in Luke 17:37b:
- “body” would be more idiomatically translated by “corpse” or “dead body.” The singular of חֲלָלִים (ḥa⋅lā⋅LIM, “slain persons”), the word used in Job 39:30, is probably behind the Greek words translated “body,” “carcass” and “dead body” in Luke 17:37 and its parallel, Matthew 24:28. In Biblical Hebrew, ḥa⋅lā⋅LIM means wounded or slain persons, never carrion or the carcasses of animals.
- “eagles” should be translated “vultures” since eagles do not feed on carrion. The confusion arises because נְשָׁרִים (ne⋅shā⋅RIM), the Hebrew word used in Job 39:27, the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek word translated “eagles” in Luke 17:37, can mean both “eagles” and “vultures.”[2]
- “will be gathered together” should be converted to the present tense, that is, “[there the vultures] gather together.” Hebrew proverbs use the “future” or “imperfect” tense of the verb, whereas English proverbs typically use the present tense (e.g., “A stitch in time saves nine”). “Future” tense verbs in Hebrew proverbs must usually be translated to English with the present tense.
- “the body,” and “the vultures,” though technically definite, have an indefinite sense in this context and should be translated as “a [dead] body” and “vultures.” In Hebrew a definite noun often has an indefinite sense.
A more idiomatic English translation of Jesus’ saying would be: “Wherever there is a slain person, there vultures gather.”
Jesus seems to be speaking of the rapture. This is indicated by his use of “taken” in the preceding verses: “There will be two men in one bed. One will be taken and the other left. There will be two women grinding together. One will be taken and the other left” (Luke 17:34-35). “Take” is a Hebraism for “translate,” (or “rapture”), as in the case of Enoch of whom the Bible says: “Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, for God took him” (Gen. 5:24).
Robert Lindsey reached the conclusion that the setting for this saying of Jesus was a meeting between Jesus and his disciples on the Mount of Olives just prior to his ascension (Jesus, Rabbi and Lord: A Lifetime’s Search for the Meaning of Jesus’ Words, 203). Jesus tells his disciples that at the rapture many people will be left behind (“one will be taken and another left”). The disciples are concerned, and express this in just one word, אֵיפֹה (’ē⋅FOH, “Where?”), that is, “Where will you be, Lord? How will we reach you?” Jesus calms his disciples with a well-known proverb: “Wherever there is a slain person, there vultures gather,” that is, “Wherever I will be, there you likewise will be.”[3] Jesus indicates to his disciples that at his appearance, the disciples instantaneously and miraculously will be found in his presence.
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